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WSL
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 Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:22 pm Post subject: Fred K Gray & Co. |
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Greetings!
I have just acquired an old (Victorial?) piano. The only indication of maker that is visible on the piano is found under the lit, which reads "Fred K Gray & Co., 7 Marmion Road, Southsea". I have searched the Internet for information about this "maker", however, nothing can be found. Can someone shed any light? Much appreciated.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Additional Note: It is an upright piano. I have also failed to find any serial number or additional information on the piano. |
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Bill Kibby
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| Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:24 pm Post subject: Gray |
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Hi! There were several firms called Gray, Frederick was at that address some time after 1899, but I haven't got the details ready on computer. I'll look it up on card and paper files. Incidentally, MOST piano names are not on the net!
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WSL
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| Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 8:37 am Post subject: Re: Gray |
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There were several firms called Gray, Frederick was at that address some time after 1899, but I haven't got the details ready on computer. I'll look it up on card and paper files. Incidentally, MOST piano names are not on the net!
Many thanks for your response. That's cleared the mist a great deal for me.
Sorry that I have to keep this short, at work now.
Looking forward to more information about my piano (for how much longer I don't know!)
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Bill Kibby
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| Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 4:10 pm Post subject: Gray |
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Hi! The photos are very dark, and I couldn't seem to find a way to get from one to another. It is probably about a hundred years old. Do you want to order a full report? If so, I would need more detail, and photos that I can see!
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WSL
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| Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: Gray |
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| Bill Kibby wrote: | | Hi! The photos are very dark, and I couldn't seem to find a way to get from one to another. It is probably about a hundred years old. Do you want to order a full report? If so, I would need more detail, and photos that I can see! |
Hello, Sorry about the photos. I will try to take some more in a better light. To be honest, I don't know yet whether or not I want a full report at this point. But if the tuning and some repairs are successful and I decide to keep it, then I would definetely like to have a full report. Meantime, many thanks for your kind help and time.
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Bill Kibby
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 11:42 am Post subject: Gray |
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This is all I can find about Frederick Gray & Co., Southsea, but it doesn't help with dates. It is unlikely that Gray made his pianos. See Aliases on the PianoGen website.
1899 Not listed.
1911 Frederick Gray & Co., 7 & 19 Marmion Road, Southsea.
1911 Not listed among the bona fide makers by Alfred Dolge “Pianos & Their Makers”.
1914 Gray & Co., Piano Saloons, 7 Marmion Road.
1928 Gray & Co., Pianos & Gramophones, 7 Marmion Road.
1936 F. Gray & Co. Ltd., 7 Marmion Road & Richmond Place.
1938 Gray & Co., Piano Saloons, 7 Marmion Road.
1951 F. Gray & Co. Ltd., 7 Marmion Road.
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WSL
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: Gray |
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| Bill Kibby wrote: | This is all I can find about Frederick Gray & Co., Southsea, but it doesn't help with dates. It is unlikely that Gray made his pianos. See Aliases on the PianoGen website.
1899 Not listed.
1911 Frederick Gray & Co., 7 & 19 Marmion Road, Southsea.
1911 Not listed among the bona fide makers by Alfred Dolge “Pianos & Their Makers”.
1914 Gray & Co., Piano Saloons, 7 Marmion Road.
1928 Gray & Co., Pianos & Gramophones, 7 Marmion Road.
1936 F. Gray & Co. Ltd., 7 Marmion Road & Richmond Place.
1938 Gray & Co., Piano Saloons, 7 Marmion Road.
1951 F. Gray & Co. Ltd., 7 Marmion Road. |
Many thanks for all the information, Bill.
My tuner recokens that Fred K Gray & Co. may not be the maker but the retailer at that address. I can't find anywhere on the piano any serial number or signature, etc. Rahter enigmatic, the origin of my piano. |
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Bill Kibby
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 12:05 pm Post subject: Gray |
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This enquiry ios being dealt with by email.
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