[mazza]

I have a T. G. Payne piano, and I can't seem to find out much about it... It is an upright piano, no candlestick holders and when one opens the top lid, the strings are visable in a 'v' shape formation pointing down. It does have some kind of trade mark which consists of a large triangle situated in the 'v' of the strings. On the border of the triangle are "t.g. payne" "established" and "mdcccxci". Then in the centre of the triangle it has a smaller triangle depicting a tree which holds what seems to be a sphere with some of the signs of the Zodiac accross it and in small print "trademark" above it.

It also has t.g. payne in brass under the music fold-down stand. And again in iron plate under the lid next to the strings.

Whew. I think that's everything, except, oh yes, it is encased in walnut veneer.

Can you tell me anything about the date of this piano, or it's history, or even (she asks timidly) the worth? Or if there are any websites on these pianos, that would be fantastic.

Thanks very much for your time.
Maz.

[Bill Kibby]

This particular Payne, T.& G. Payne, was established in London, 1892. Circa 1906, They became a limited company. By the thirties, they had moved to Kentish Town.
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[mazza]

Right, ok. In that case, would you have an idea how to work out at which point T.G.Payne built my Piano?
(Thanks for your help so far!)

[Bill Kibby]

Type pianogen in the address bar, and you'll find my website. Press ALL the buttons, especially datemarks, and these may help. If you send photos, these will also help, but there is no guarantee of finding a precise date.
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I do not buy, sell or value pianos, but I sometimes rescue pre-1890 pianos in the UK.

For more details see my own website: http://www.pianogen.org

Piano History Centre

The World's Largest Collection of
Historical Information about British Pianos.

[Barrie Heaton]

The best way it is click on the www at the bottom of your sig the one with the little house
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Barrie Heaton
Web Master UK Piano Page

[Bill Kibby]

Yes, but unfortunately, being more into pianos than computers, there is so much unnecessary junk on the screen most of the time, I don't know what half of it is, and life forunately provides more exciting challenges than pressing every button on every website to see what it does! Explanations, when they are even offered, don't make much of an attempt at plain english, and use terms (like emoticons) that most people have never heard of, or vandalise existing words (like avatar) and turn them into somthing completely different.
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I do not buy, sell or value pianos, but I sometimes rescue pre-1890 pianos in the UK.

For more details see my own website: http://www.pianogen.org

Piano History Centre

The World's Largest Collection of
Historical Information about British Pianos.

[Barrie Heaton]

Blame the Yanks for the mucking up of English, because you use the internet you can now tell folk that you speak three languages English, American and Australian
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Barrie Heaton
Web Master UK Piano Page