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Mangeot Brothers Member

Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5 Location: AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:46 am Post subject: Mangeot Freres Steinway |
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Gday Bill
I am not new to your site , but was unaware until this evening that the forum had been started and it looks great.
Bill I contacted you a few years ago about a Black 7ft 3inch C model Grand piano circa 1870 complete with style 1 Steinway plate that started its life in your part of the world. Originally made in Nancy France by the Mangeot Brothers and sold by the very first European Steinway Dealer, The Piano Forte Baker St London. I have been researching this piano on and off for the past 8 years or so and was wondering if you or any of your forum members have anything to add to this intriguing story.
Unfortunately Steinway in Hamburg have indicated that all documents were lost in the bombings of Steinway Buildings in London during WW2. But they have indicated they are still interested in any further progress re this research.
Cheers from Oz
Tony _________________ Theres often more to the story, dont give up the search! |
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Bill Kibby Moderator


Joined: 04 Jun 2003 Posts: 2864 Location: Great Yarmouth UK
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:04 pm Post subject: Mangeot |
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The forum has been around for years. Yes, I certainly remember your enquiry, I often come across it in our files, but have nothing to add, in fact when I saw this enquiry, I was hoping it might be a new lead, especially as it was signed by the Mangeot Brothers! We have no funding to cover research abroad, so anything that turns up at random is a matter of luck. _________________ I do not buy, sell or value pianos, but I sometimes rescue wood-frame pianos in the UK.
My own website: http://www.pianogen.org
Email Bill@PianoGen.org
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Mangeot Brothers Member

Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5 Location: AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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No worries Bill
When I recieved your emails a while back indicating that you were looking into this subject I just thought I'd check to see if you found anything more on it, its been a while.
I wasnt surprised as its a difficult subject to find info on, however Williams Diaries makes for good reading if people are interested.
Keep up the good work.
cheers
Tony _________________ Theres often more to the story, dont give up the search! |
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popojcb Member

Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 2 Location: France - centre
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:22 am Post subject: HI Mangeot Brother had some information (in french) |
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Hi, Im french and may english (as all frenchies) is very bad. I have a "Piano 3/4 de queue MANGEOT-STEINWAY & SONS mod?le 240 (year 1866)" and I work to get informations about it.
I'll contact the Nancy's tow and it music conservatory. If you're interrest I can transmit it to you, but there will be in french. |
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Bill Kibby Moderator


Joined: 04 Jun 2003 Posts: 2864 Location: Great Yarmouth UK
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:39 am Post subject: Mangeot |
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Thanks. How do you know it was made in 1866? _________________ I do not buy, sell or value pianos, but I sometimes rescue wood-frame pianos in the UK.
My own website: http://www.pianogen.org
Email Bill@PianoGen.org
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Mangeot Brothers Member

Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5 Location: AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Hello
I may have information that is of interest to you as well.
You can email me direct alderley@aapt.net.au.
I am keeping a record of all grand pianos of this type and their serial numbers etc. Would be interested in the details of your piano.
cheers
Tony _________________ Theres often more to the story, dont give up the search! |
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benvoreux Member

Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 2 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: HI Mangeot Brother had some information (in french) |
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| popojcb wrote: | Hi, Im french and may english (as all frenchies) is very bad. I have a "Piano 3/4 de queue MANGEOT-STEINWAY & SONS mod?le 240 (year 1866)" and I work to get informations about it.
I'll contact the Nancy's tow and it music conservatory. If you're interrest I can transmit it to you, but there will be in french. |
Hi popojcb !
I'm french too and I also have a MANGEOT FRERES piano (with a steinway mechanism) and I would be interested to get some information from you about your contact in Nancy.
I didn't wanted to write in French because this is an englsih message board, but I have just sent you a MP about this.
So check your MPs please! |
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popojcb Member

Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 2 Location: France - centre
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:11 pm Post subject: hi evrybody ;) |
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Sorry, I'm slow and busy. I receive the informations from Nancy. Nothing really intteresting, just some informations about the factor (Mr Mangeot) in the piano's world history. The men was very interresting, but did not possed informations about the end of "mangeot & fils" compagny, and the stenway importation in the last part of his history.
The documents are partials copies of two frenchs books that we dont still find in library.javascript:emoticon(' ')
Benvoreux, if you want leave me your email adress than I sent you copies of the documents I received.
Mangeot Brothers do you read french ? The documents I receives dont speak aubout your instruments, only on world piano developpement. I still dont possed information about my piano.
for Bill Kibby, I'am not sure about it , I just suppose, it's writtened on.
Read you soon. |
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Bill Kibby Moderator


Joined: 04 Jun 2003 Posts: 2864 Location: Great Yarmouth UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject: Mangeot |
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You can email me by pressing the button below, or go to www.pianogen.org where you can read the Datemarks link, which points out that pianos are hardly ever marked with the year of manufacture. It is more likely to be the date of an exhibition medal, or the date they were established. See also the Medals link at www.pianogen.org _________________ I do not buy, sell or value pianos, but I sometimes rescue wood-frame pianos in the UK.
My own website: http://www.pianogen.org
Email Bill@PianoGen.org
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Mangeot Brothers Member

Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5 Location: AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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Hello popojcb nice to hear back from you. No I apologise I do not speak French but I am interested in the documents which I will arrange for translation.
Cheers |
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benvoreux Member

Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 2 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:07 am Post subject: Re: hi evrybody ;) |
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| popojcb wrote: | Sorry, I'm slow and busy. I receive the informations from Nancy. Nothing really intteresting, just some informations about the factor (Mr Mangeot) in the piano's world history. The men was very interresting, but did not possed informations about the end of "mangeot & fils" compagny, and the stenway importation in the last part of his history.
The documents are partials copies of two frenchs books that we dont still find in library.javascript:emoticon(' ')
Benvoreux, if you want leave me your email adress than I sent you copies of the documents I received.
Mangeot Brothers do you read french ? The documents I receives dont speak aubout your instruments, only on world piano developpement. I still dont possed information about my piano.
for Bill Kibby, I'am not sure about it , I just suppose, it's writtened on.
Read you soon. |
I'm just back from holidays so I just get your post right now...
Of course I read french as I am french
I would be glad if you could send me this documents, my email address : benoit.voreux@yahoo.fr
thanks in advance!
benoît |
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