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What were the cases of a Broadwood pianos made of in 1817

 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 5:33 pm    Post subject: What were the cases of a Broadwood pianos made of in 1817 Reply with quote

Hi,
I hope this is not seen as a frivolous question.
I am writing a historical novel and my hero purchases a Broadwood piano (thanks so much for all the wonderful detail on your site by the way).
If I were to describe such a piano, what wood would be typical of 1817? Black? Brown? Type
I had a fancy for cherry wood, because it has a nice sound (language) to it. But I want to be accurate.
Any advice you can give me would be much appreciated.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well in 1817 it would probably be Mahogany with walnut inlay the reason is that is was cheep because Mahogany was used as ballast on ships returning from the far east so it was plentifully, the piano would have been a square piano the compass will have been 5 octave F to F


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 10:55 pm    Post subject: Broadwood Reply with quote

Why would it be a square? It might be a 6-octave grand like Beethoven's 1818 model, or a tall cabinet piano like the 1817 one on the watermark of my website, depending on what suits the story!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:22 pm    Post subject: Broadwood Reply with quote

Hi,
You guys are great. I would really like it to be a grand, your history indicated they started making them around this time? I can go with mahogany and walnut inlay, but did they ever make them out of anything other than mahogany? Did the type of wood have any impact on the sound? Not that it particularly matters for the story, I was just curious.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope your hero was well off as grands were not cheep

A grand dated 1812 Serial number 5835 compass 6 octave C to C, Length 249 “
Spanish Mahanoy with boxwood inlayed stringing and crossovers with figured maple keyboard

A grand dated 1817 Serial number 7023 compass 6 octave C to C, Length 249 “ Rosewood with boxwood inlays with carved edges and brass handles, Greek cross decoration on the cheeks 2 pedals. Present owners live in the USA

Bill may have some prices to hand I would have to dig

Yes the rim of the piano is important the harder the wood the better today good makes tend to use lamented maple Broadwoods used oak with the veneer on top

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 2:39 am    Post subject: 1817 Broadwood Pianos Reply with quote

Thanks Barry,
Very informative. They do say, ask an expert. One last question about the keys, you indicate a figured maple keyboard, and I know I'm showing my ignorance for which I apologise. (My kids took the lessons, not me we have an ancient Heintzman upright)
Anyway the question is, would the "key board" be different from the keys and would the keys be made of ivory or were they maple?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keyboard - keys are the same thing the tops are ivory the fronts are maple inserts, the maple will have been carved into steps just pure decoration

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 1:46 pm    Post subject: Broadwood Pianos Reply with quote

Dear Barrie,
OK, thanks so much for your information and your help. I think that covers what I need for now. If my book is published, I will ensure that you are credited.
Cheers, from Michele in Toronto who has snow up the -- well you know -- but the sun is shining and the sky is blue.

Laughing Michele
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