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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 8:52 pm    Post subject: Aveling Piano Reply with quote

I hope somebody can help.

We have recently been given an Aveling piano. It is an up right and although not been loved in some time now has pride of place in our house.

We have searched this website and the net but can find no mention of this maker. The plate on the piano says Aveling London, with a further plate stating A J Wiseman Birmingham ( The seller I presume).

It seems to play in tune to our untrained ears. We have a tuner coming to visit it in about 3 weeks time to give it an MOT!

Can anybody shed any light on this piano's age and history.

Kind regards.
Lisa and Anthony
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 10:46 pm    Post subject: Aveling / Wiseman Reply with quote

The name Aveling does not appear in any of my London lists, and my guess is that it was made by a London wholesaler and sold under the alias by Wiseman. See
http://www.uk-piano.org/piano-gen/piano-names-aliases.html

I'll see what I can find on Wiseman.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 12:05 pm    Post subject: Aveling Piano Reply with quote

Thanks for checking. It appears to be a bit of a mystery then!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 1:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Aveling Piano Reply with quote

Bisoneyes wrote:
Thanks for checking. It appears to be a bit of a mystery then!


There are 30 Aveling listed in the 1901 Census but none listed with pianos as an Occupation there was one Aveling who was a music teacher but not in London
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http://www.census.pro.gov.uk/index.html
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 11:31 pm    Post subject: Aveling Reply with quote

I have something nagging at my brain about Aveling Park Road, Walthamstow, but I can't find it yet!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 9:54 pm    Post subject: Aveling Piano Reply with quote

Thanks for all your thought on this piano.We're doing some research on the Wiseman name.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 10:06 pm    Post subject: Wiseman Reply with quote

I am still looking for both names, but there's a bit of a queue at the moment.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 10:40 am    Post subject: Aveling Piano/Wiseman Reply with quote

There is an old shop in Digbeth, Birmingahm that Has the name A E Wiseman above the door.

The shop is long since closed though.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:34 pm    Post subject: Wiseman Reply with quote

E.T. Wiseman & Co. were at 56a Newton Street, Birmingham in 1928, described as "Pianos Makers", but it is unlikely that they actually made them, and they don't appear in the Music Trade Directories for 1914 or 1938, so perhaps your piano was sold in the twenties, somewhere between those two dates. Have you tried...
http://www.uk-piano.org/piano-gen/piano-names-aliases.html
http://www.uk-piano.org/piano-gen/datemarks-in-pianos.html
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