[ConcernedParent]

Hello,
I am the parent of a couple of children who currently play at grade two and five (a third may yet take up piano.) They have played at home on a reasonable digital piano, though I am aware of the limitations that this presents.

I have been looking to buy an acoustic piano for a number of months now but the process is becoming muddier with each conversation and visit to piano dealers.

I have decided not to pursue the "secondhand piano - would suit beginner and/or children" route because of the variable quality and lack of provenance available. Neither my wife or myself play piano, so our ability to judge or play piano to determine suitability is compromised.

There are a lot of "fully reconditioned" Yamaha U3's in dealers and on the net which on the face of it appear a good deal. However, if considering the cost of these (around £2500) I would probably look to spend a bit more and buy new - I'm considering the Yamaha P121. Does this alternative offer the mix of price for quality that I'm looking for. There is no fixed budget, but would an increased cost result in a substantial increse in quality?

In general, what are your opinions on these grey import? Do they represent good value or are they just buffed up examples of questionable reconditioning? Were these pianos ever suitable for our market/climate or will the problems only become apparent at a later date. Some dealers I have spoken to insist they get the best examples of these and claim they are "as new." The varying ages quoted suggest differing original specifications which is difficult to keep track of.

My problem, is that if they make these claims and I come to the conclusion they are unfounded - I am still trying to keep an open mind - how can I trust them regarding the purchase of a new piano, whichever my final choice.

Any opinions or further info on the above would be greatly appreciated.

[mdw]

The 2nd hand Yams range from good to rubish. If you want to be 100% sure buy new and if you dont want to follow the crowd but still want a good piano try the same size Kemble. Might cost you a bit more now but the residuals will be better if you have to sell, also has a nicer case and a bit more class!

Ask about to find a trust worthy local dealer. Then trust him/her. Take their advice and buy from them. Dont ask them to match a internet price after you have spent 3 hours trying their stock and picking their brains.
NOT suggesting you will but it happens.
Good luck!!

[Grenache]

I visited a few dealers and would suggest you look at Peter Smith in Paisley and Edinburgh Piano co in Howard Street in Edinburgh, both were very helpful.

I eventually chose a U1 (as I wanted a silent option), but I was also impressed with the Brodmann 125 in Edinburgh. The new price was very reasonable, I felt.

Everyone will tell you on this forum that no two pianos are alike and you really have to try them out - take your grade five pianist along, both dealers will be happy to accommodate, and you should have no worries about the history if you buy new.

[joseph]

i can second a visit to the edinburgh piano co, I got a fantastic deal on my brodmann from there. I don't know much about peter smith but i know that he does a roaring trade amonst amatuers and musicians alike so that should count for something!